What is a law anyway?

Submitted by John_O on Mon, 08/04/2008 - 18:10

What is a law? - Does anyone know?  The law tells me not to drive above 70mph but when I drive at 80mph nothing happens... 

Apparently the invasion of Iraq was illegal under International Law - can anyone confirm this?

Do laws enforce anything or do they merely reflect the moral compass of the specific community to which they apply?


Yer caht ave yer Cow and Kill it.

You ask "What is a Law anyway?". Often I would suggest it is a way of passing the responsibility for societies ineptitudes on the poor suffering majority. For instance, society uses tokens we call money to trade. If the tokens are scarce then people will resort to other means to obtain them or the things they buy.

They might help themselves directly to food.


To solve this problem society punishes them for helping themselves and requires policing.

They didn't use the tokens in the proper manner.

Likewise the necessity for a Meat License might induce similar activity. At the car boot sale we could get our fake meat license from one stall and the meat from the next, without the messy killing business getting in the way.

At least you'd hope so wouldn't you?


They don't have to reflect

They don't have to reflect the moral compass of the community. They're imposed by the rulers. In a democracy it could be argued that they therefore are, but not really now everyone is so frickin polarised. Take this meat issue for example - the moral compass is clearly divided, and it's hardly party political. Anyway, I'm going to bore you now. Gordon Brown introduced over 2700 new laws in his first year in office. That's a new record. Go him!

Take your law and shove it up your.....

....as I was saying, knee jerk laws are passed all the time.

I don't want the law telling me what I can and can't eat. I am able to decide that for myself.

There are too many laws already. I know a feller who makes delightful raw food vegan snacks, take my word for it, they are delicious.

He can not supply his products to the shops without encountering miles of beaurocracy and license fees. If he wants to sell them to the public himself he has to have a vending license which costs £1700 a year.

His products are top notch, ethically sourced and often locally grown organically. The sheer volume of red tape and start up fees make his small one man operation practically impossible.

His only option is to try and do things under the radar and not attract the attention of the law makers and enforcers.

The laws favour the large corporations of course, who will find all the channels to their shelves paved with welcome signs.

Isn't your issue really with the abuse of animals in the meat industry? Who demands this abuse? Its the self same corporations that dominate the markets.

Elsewhere you say your proposed law is 'nescessary'. Well I say, if I want to eat pigeon pie, I'll have pigeon pie.

Have Your Cow and Kill It

As I understand it, The Meat Licence Proposal won't do anything to tackle any perceived abuse of animals in the meat industry - The Proposal simply involves individuals who enjoy eating meat, more directly in this process.

If you eat meat - The Proposal will not stop you doing so.  And if you don't eat meat, then you will not be asked to kill.

If you like to eat meat, but would prefer not to kill - aren't you trying to have your cake and eat it?